In this podcast episode, Dr. Finlayson-Fife is interviewed by Sherrae Phelps on her podcast Ten Thousand Hours of Writing. They discuss the different “versions” of forgiveness and how to forgive in a way that is healing and not harmful. To hear more from Sherrae Phelps and her podcast, you can visit her website at

The main question that this episode explores is this:  What are some misconceptions about forgiveness? And in what ways is counterfeit forgiveness, or “doormat forgiveness”, hurtful, harmful, and destructive?

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